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	<title>Comments on: More AF-S DX NIKKOR 16-85mm F3.5-5.6G ED VR</title>
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		<title>By: Nikon Watch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; PMA 2008- New PC, New Macro, New Consumer SLR/Lens, Some Coolpix&#8217;s&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikon Watch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; PMA 2008- New PC, New Macro, New Consumer SLR/Lens, Some Coolpix&#8217;s&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And a new consumer-grade lens that I seem to recall seeing somewhere else&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh.  The 16-85 leaves me cold, but I&#039;m sure it will help sell whatever is the successor to the D40/D40X.

An 85 1.2 AF-S doesn&#039;t seem entirely outside the realm of possibility, but your price for it does.  Considering the street price for the venerable 85 1.4 &quot;cream machine&quot; hovers around $1000-1200, I&#039;d expect to see it somewhere around $2000 if it comes.  And even that may be foolishly optimistic.  

Bear in mind that the 50/1.4 is almost 3x the cost of the 50/1.8, and the AF-S 300/2.8 is about 3.5x the street price of the AF-S 300/4.  Speed doesn&#039;t come cheap.

Personally, I&#039;d be perfectly happy with an optically-identical AF-S version of the 85 1.4D, especially if it managed to go AF-S without also being a G lens.  Call me old-fashioned, but I like dedicated aperture rings.

If new pro primes are coming, my wishful-but-reasonable prediction would be: 

28/1.4 AF-S G 
(It&#039;s ba-aaaaack!  This time around selling for only $12-1300ish, and actually selling well, because it will appeal to both D3 owners and potential Sigma 30/1.4 purchasers on the DX format willing to lay out more cash for the Nikon marque and full-frame coverage. At this price it might be a loss-leader even after the cost savings of the G technology, but it will certainly draw some attention to the brand, and I think it would be enthusiastically adopted by pros using the D300 as a backup to their D3s.  Fast wide on one, fast normal on the other - win win!)

50 or 58/1.2 AF-S G
(before we get an 85/1.2, we&#039;ll be more likely to see one of these since Nikon already has the existing 1.2 formulas to work from.  The 50/1.2 AI-S is even still in production, but my wish is for the 58 because it&#039;s a better length on DX format. Sell one of these &quot;new autofocus Nokts&quot; at about $550-600 street and it will steal some thunder from the Voigtlander 58/1.4 MF Nokton that has excited a lot of Nikon owners)

85/1.4 AF-S G
(Same great lens, now with the newest Nikon technology.  Same price as the current 1.4D, but users get AF-S focusing, and Nikon gets to cut costs by making it a G lens. Maybe VRII as well?)

I think that&#039;s my entire monthly quota of careless speculation in a single post.  Can&#039;t wait to see what Nikon actually brings to PMA...hope it&#039;s good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh.  The 16-85 leaves me cold, but I&#8217;m sure it will help sell whatever is the successor to the D40/D40X.</p>
<p>An 85 1.2 AF-S doesn&#8217;t seem entirely outside the realm of possibility, but your price for it does.  Considering the street price for the venerable 85 1.4 &#8220;cream machine&#8221; hovers around $1000-1200, I&#8217;d expect to see it somewhere around $2000 if it comes.  And even that may be foolishly optimistic.  </p>
<p>Bear in mind that the 50/1.4 is almost 3x the cost of the 50/1.8, and the AF-S 300/2.8 is about 3.5x the street price of the AF-S 300/4.  Speed doesn&#8217;t come cheap.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d be perfectly happy with an optically-identical AF-S version of the 85 1.4D, especially if it managed to go AF-S without also being a G lens.  Call me old-fashioned, but I like dedicated aperture rings.</p>
<p>If new pro primes are coming, my wishful-but-reasonable prediction would be: </p>
<p>28/1.4 AF-S G<br />
(It&#8217;s ba-aaaaack!  This time around selling for only $12-1300ish, and actually selling well, because it will appeal to both D3 owners and potential Sigma 30/1.4 purchasers on the DX format willing to lay out more cash for the Nikon marque and full-frame coverage. At this price it might be a loss-leader even after the cost savings of the G technology, but it will certainly draw some attention to the brand, and I think it would be enthusiastically adopted by pros using the D300 as a backup to their D3s.  Fast wide on one, fast normal on the other &#8211; win win!)</p>
<p>50 or 58/1.2 AF-S G<br />
(before we get an 85/1.2, we&#8217;ll be more likely to see one of these since Nikon already has the existing 1.2 formulas to work from.  The 50/1.2 AI-S is even still in production, but my wish is for the 58 because it&#8217;s a better length on DX format. Sell one of these &#8220;new autofocus Nokts&#8221; at about $550-600 street and it will steal some thunder from the Voigtlander 58/1.4 MF Nokton that has excited a lot of Nikon owners)</p>
<p>85/1.4 AF-S G<br />
(Same great lens, now with the newest Nikon technology.  Same price as the current 1.4D, but users get AF-S focusing, and Nikon gets to cut costs by making it a G lens. Maybe VRII as well?)</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s my entire monthly quota of careless speculation in a single post.  Can&#8217;t wait to see what Nikon actually brings to PMA&#8230;hope it&#8217;s good!</p>
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		<title>By: manitou22</title>
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		<dc:creator>manitou22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want a wide angle tilt-shift!</description>
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