Comments on: Nikon D400 – 14MP is FX and D3x – 24.8MP? New Lenses? http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/ Helping you figure out WTF Nikon's doing... D700x? D4? Rangefinder? Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:40:10 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Photography & Writing, Professional & Personal » Grab Shots http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1021 Photography & Writing, Professional & Personal » Grab Shots Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:17:40 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-1021 [...] Rumor Focus: Nikon Watch keeps the full-frame Nikon mill churning with word of 12mp D400 and a 24.8mp [...] [...] Rumor Focus: Nikon Watch keeps the full-frame Nikon mill churning with word of 12mp D400 and a 24.8mp [...]

]]> By: » Plus de nouvelles sur NX 2 et suivez l’Euro… http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-529 » Plus de nouvelles sur NX 2 et suivez l’Euro… Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:03:18 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-529 [...] seule, en voici une autre (peut-être un peu plus dur à croire), parue il y a quelques jours. Nikon Watch publie en effet une “rumeur” sur une éventuelle présentation et utilisation par la [...] [...] seule, en voici une autre (peut-être un peu plus dur à croire), parue il y a quelques jours. Nikon Watch publie en effet une “rumeur” sur une éventuelle présentation et utilisation par la [...]

]]> By: Digitalkameranews.de » Blog Archive » Gerüchteküche: Panasonic will weg vom kleinen 4/3-Sensor; Nikon D400 und D3x im Betatest bei der EM? http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-509 Digitalkameranews.de » Blog Archive » Gerüchteküche: Panasonic will weg vom kleinen 4/3-Sensor; Nikon D400 und D3x im Betatest bei der EM? Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:51:54 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-509 [...] wenngleich es noch etwas wackliger fundiert ist, als die Panasonic-Meldung, stammt vom nikonwatch-Blog: Während der EM sollen wohl einige Fotografen die Möglichkeit bekommen, mit einer Nikon [...] [...] wenngleich es noch etwas wackliger fundiert ist, als die Panasonic-Meldung, stammt vom nikonwatch-Blog: Während der EM sollen wohl einige Fotografen die Möglichkeit bekommen, mit einer Nikon [...]

]]> By: tom0607 http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-508 tom0607 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:02:34 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-508 My previous comment regarding the lack of sharpness on the "70-200 VR (DX)" was indeed in reference to that f2.8 lens... sans my sarcastic "(DX)" appendage. Per an excellent analysis of that lens from DPreview (5/2/2008): "..The 70-200mm VR gives a less than sublime performance on FX, essentially doing a very good impression of a lens which was optimized primarily for the DX format. Corner sharpness and falloff (or in this case, more correctly vignetting) are especially problematic... not really an acceptable performance for a professional level lens..." http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/nikon_70-200_2p8_vr_n15/page5.asp Another interesting analysis which included actual crops from an offending corner was offered up by Ken Rockwell though he didn't feel it that important. I suggest you take a quick glance at the 32 pictures he provided without noting what lens was used and pick out the two worst (least sharp) photos: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/200mm-comparison.htm Any conclusions? Perhaps you're a "...online weenie"! And per Ken, "Only an idiot worries about the far corners." Here's from an interesting "idiot"... "For landscape use on a D3 I would go as far as to say it is useless and it was the ruin of a trip of mine to Utah (from London) last year. When it was established on this forum that the problem was intrinsic to the design rather than just sample variation I sold mine..." http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00PKhl Nuff said. I'm waiting for an upgrade. My previous comment regarding the lack of sharpness on the “70-200 VR
(DX)” was indeed in reference to that f2.8 lens… sans my sarcastic “(DX)” appendage. Per an excellent analysis of that lens from DPreview (5/2/2008):

“..The 70-200mm VR gives a less than sublime performance on
FX, essentially doing a very good impression of a lens which was optimized primarily for the DX format. Corner sharpness and falloff (or in this case, more correctly vignetting) are especially problematic… not really an acceptable performance for a professional level lens…”

http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/nikon_70-200_2p8_vr_n15/page5.asp

Another interesting analysis which included actual crops from an offending corner was offered up by Ken Rockwell though he didn’t feel it that important. I suggest you take a quick glance at the 32 pictures he provided without noting what lens was used and pick out the two worst (least sharp) photos:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/200mm-comparison.htm

Any conclusions? Perhaps you’re a “…online weenie”!
And per Ken, “Only an idiot worries about the far corners.”

Here’s from an interesting “idiot”…
“For landscape use on a D3 I would go as far as to say it is useless and it was the ruin of a trip of mine to Utah (from London) last year. When it was established on this forum that the problem was intrinsic to the design rather than just sample variation I sold mine…”

http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00PKhl

Nuff said. I’m waiting for an upgrade.

]]> By: enea http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-506 enea Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:09:42 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-506 <p>I don't know if it's worth something...<br /> But NPS is throwing a party on the 6th of June in Basel to welcome the professionals working at the European Championships.<br /> Maybe they'll announce something there :)<br /> [ed: URL removed as it appears to be a more private party]</p> I don’t know if it’s worth something…
But NPS is throwing a party on the 6th of June in Basel to welcome the professionals working at the European Championships.
Maybe they’ll announce something there :)
[ed: URL removed as it appears to be a more private party]

]]> By: matt http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-505 matt Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:39:28 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-505 I'm guessing that Tom0607 is talking about his 70-300vr? I’m guessing that Tom0607 is talking about his 70-300vr?

]]> By: zoetmb http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-504 zoetmb Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:28:04 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-504 The current 70-200 is not a DX lens, but critics claim it's not useful as an FX lens because it supposedly vignettes or has soft corners when used on FX. All I know is that I bought this lens originally for my film camera and got great results with it. That's not to say that it couldn't be even better, but if you're not pixel peeping, I think this lens would be fine. And if it's not, so crop a little bit. But if you don't have one, you probably won't be getting one because they've been out of stock just about everywhere for many months. This is what leads people to believe that a new version is coming. The current 70-200 is not a DX lens, but critics claim it’s not useful as an FX lens because it supposedly vignettes or has soft corners when used on FX. All I know is that I bought this lens originally for my film camera and got great results with it.

That’s not to say that it couldn’t be even better, but if you’re not pixel peeping, I think this lens would be fine. And if it’s not, so crop a little bit.

But if you don’t have one, you probably won’t be getting one because they’ve been out of stock just about everywhere for many months. This is what leads people to believe that a new version is coming.

]]> By: lshekter http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-503 lshekter Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:18:44 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-503 I think it's obvious that FX is eventually going to replace DX in the Nikon DSLR market. Not today, not tomorrow but eventually. DX equipment will be around for a long time and will continue to take fantastic pictures; there's no need for anyone to feel upset. Besides, my understanding is that the D3 can easily use DX lenses and adjust itself accordingly. I think it’s obvious that FX is eventually going to replace DX in the Nikon DSLR market. Not today, not tomorrow but eventually. DX equipment will be around for a long time and will continue to take fantastic pictures; there’s no need for anyone to feel upset. Besides, my understanding is that the D3 can easily use DX lenses and adjust itself accordingly.

]]> By: tom0607 http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-502 tom0607 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:10:19 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-502 Note that this site has settled on english. Please try to respond in kind. Re new lenses, I'm holding my breath, pleading with Nikon to upgrade their 70-200 VR (DX) lense so that I can use of my D3. Such a pity to have such a spectacular performer unusable for landscapes (20% of my imaging). Though their D3 firmware upgrade can handle patching vignetting, there's no way that firmware can save you from soft corners. And it leaves stitching out of the question all together. Please NIKON... Upgrade that beauty to FX! Note that this site has settled on english. Please try to respond in kind.

Re new lenses, I’m holding my breath, pleading with Nikon to upgrade their 70-200 VR (DX) lense so that I can use of my D3. Such a pity to have such a spectacular performer unusable for landscapes (20% of my imaging). Though their D3 firmware upgrade can handle patching vignetting, there’s no way that firmware can save you from soft corners. And it leaves stitching out of the question all together. Please NIKON… Upgrade that beauty to FX!

]]> By: … nachbelichtet » Nikon Capture NX 2.0 am 3. Juni? Nikon D400 mit Vollformat in Sicht? http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-500 … nachbelichtet » Nikon Capture NX 2.0 am 3. Juni? Nikon D400 mit Vollformat in Sicht? Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:42:16 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-500 [...] Gerüchte besagen, dass die Nikon D400 FX (FX = Nikons Abkürzung für das Vollformat) vor der [...] [...] Gerüchte besagen, dass die Nikon D400 FX (FX = Nikons Abkürzung für das Vollformat) vor der [...]

]]> By: Uusia huhuja! D3x, D400 ja uusia objektiivejä… 0 http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-498 Uusia huhuja! D3x, D400 ja uusia objektiivejä… 0 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:17:39 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-498 [...] Mutta eipä tässä, katsellaan… tuon huhun mukaan vehkeiden pitäisi tulla 7. kesäkuuta… joten eihän tässä enää pitkästi siihen ole. Huhun bongasin täältä -> Nikonwatch [...] [...] Mutta eipä tässä, katsellaan… tuon huhun mukaan vehkeiden pitäisi tulla 7. kesäkuuta… joten eihän tässä enää pitkästi siihen ole. Huhun bongasin täältä -> Nikonwatch [...]

]]> By: mjames http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-497 mjames Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:20:49 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-497 I agree. I'd be pretty pissed if they came out with a D400 this early in the life of the D300. I realize it would be full frame so it would have an implication of discontinuing the DX format. That would make a lot of people, including myself, very upset - I own 3 DX lenses already and intend on buying a 4th. May a sub-D3 type body would be released, but I hope they don't use the DX00 moniker and maybe use another...just my 2 cents. I agree. I’d be pretty pissed if they came out with a D400 this early in the life of the D300. I realize it would be full frame so it would have an implication of discontinuing the DX format. That would make a lot of people, including myself, very upset – I own 3 DX lenses already and intend on buying a 4th.

May a sub-D3 type body would be released, but I hope they don’t use the DX00 moniker and maybe use another…just my 2 cents.

]]> By: zoetmb http://www.nikonwatch.com/2008/05/31/nikon-d400-14mp-is-fx-and-d3x-248mp-new-lenses/comment-page-1/#comment-496 zoetmb Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:28:38 +0000 http://www.nikonwatch.com/?p=500#comment-496 >>>Or maybe they’ll make .5% of their market happy by coming out with more super-tele’s that only news organizations can afford. Would you buy a $40,000 1000mm f/2.8? Me neither. But they can't even get out the 500mm and 600mm VRs, which were supposed to be available in November of 2007. However, recent rumblings out of Nikon (that you've posted) do seem to indicate that Nikon is going to concentrate more on the high end this year and that they're wiling to give up market share in order to obtain margin. I think part of what's happened is that Nikon never expected the D200, D300 and D3 to be as successful as they have been and there's apparently a lot more margin in those cameras than there is at the low end. So maybe those rumors of a D400 and a D3x are real, although it seems very early to be replacing the D300, if that's the intention of the D400. >>>Or maybe they’ll make .5% of their market happy by coming out with more super-tele’s that only news organizations can afford. Would you buy a $40,000 1000mm f/2.8? Me neither.

But they can’t even get out the 500mm and 600mm VRs, which were supposed to be available in November of 2007.

However, recent rumblings out of Nikon (that you’ve posted) do seem to indicate that Nikon is going to concentrate more on the high end this year and that they’re wiling to give up market share in order to obtain margin. I think part of what’s happened is that Nikon never expected the D200, D300 and D3 to be as successful as they have been and there’s apparently a lot more margin in those cameras than there is at the low end. So maybe those rumors of a D400 and a D3x are real, although it seems very early to be replacing the D300, if that’s the intention of the D400.

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